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Perhaps a bad choice of words there as I suppose they might call anyone who loves psychology a nerd (but I do embrace the term about myself :lol: ). But I'm wondering if there is anybody on Clinpsy that is a fan of anime, manga and video games like myself. Seems like an uncommon trait but I hope I'm wrong!

I can only seem to find people who like one or the other... so someone who loves psychology but doesn't really touch games (and usually avoids anime like the plague :oops: )
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miriam wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:14 pm Have you not noticed my avatar?
Admittedly not :oops: , but honestly the joy that brought me!! :D
Just never been able to find people who enjoy those things together.. takes all kinds of people to enrich the area but wish I bumped into more of us irl. Embarrassing as it is.. my passion for psychology stems from both my past and Batman villains :oops:
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I'm a Ghibli fan, rather than all anime, and a niche gamer too - I only really like musical/rhythm and puzzle games, rather than triple A titles (so you'll find me on singstar, beat sabre, vib ribbon, samba de amgios, rez, tetris, zookeeper, poyo poyo, monument valley, gorogoa, etc). However my other half is a massive fan of the Souls games, street fighter, and Japanese/retro-games, and used to work in the games industry, so we do have a Jamma Cabinet, and I think 24 formats of gaming console and 2000+ video games in our house!
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miriam wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:36 pm I'm a Ghibli fan, rather than all anime, and a niche gamer too - I only really like musical/rhythm and puzzle games, rather than triple A titles (so you'll find me on singstar, beat sabre, vib ribbon, samba de amgios, rez, tetris, zookeeper, poyo poyo, monument valley, gorogoa, etc). However my other half is a massive fan of the Souls games, street fighter, and Japanese/retro-games, and used to work in the games industry, so we do have a Jamma Cabinet, and I think 24 formats of gaming console and 2000+ video games in our house!
:D Your house sounds fun indeed! It's lovely you both are into gaming and can enjoy that together. Finding that not everyone is so kind about it.. in the sense of how it can be expensive or apparently not productive - but it's lovely escapism and brilliant for relaxing.

I'll hope to have an organised part of a house for my nerd collection some day... I have to exercise some self control to not keep buying manga or comics. Also exercising some here so I don't go on too much :lol:

I love a variety of games myself.. I'm not necessarily good at them either :lol: I wish I was better with rhythm.. need to really focus. I love puzzle games myself, especially if it's a game with amazing plot that incorporates it (Tomb Raider, Uncharted etc). I do play some popular series (Assassin's Creed, Batman, Red Dead Redemption) but I do avoid the mindless shooting ones. I want to become invested in characters. I need to dabble more in Japanese titles as well, so far I'm just very into Persona and a few Nintendo franchises (Splatoon, Legend of Zelda).

I love Ghibli too! Not seen them all yet but they are such a reassuring watch. Fond of other anime/manga as well.. tend to go for some shonen that often goes towards demons/supernatural in nature.. or the kind that make me laugh or sob :oops:

I'm moving jobs currently so I am sadly leaving behind two colleagues who were into Batman and gaming. Hoping the new NHS job allows me to meet more lovely and nerdy people :lol:
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Fellow nerd here.

Videogame (PS5, PC and XSeriesX) and comics mainly (Frank Miller's Batman is a fave). Anime taste is mainly classic/80s stuff like Akira, Lone Wolf and Cub, but I do go to Japan quite regularly.

I also try to incorporate a lot of pop culture into my clinical service. I believe you haven't lived until you have manage to mash up Dialectical Behavioural Therapy group work and The Walking Dead, or try to teach CBT concepts using Conan the Barbarian.

If you end up on a DClinPsy and need a nerd focused third year specialist placement, PM me;)
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Spatch wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:16 am Fellow nerd here.

Videogame (PS5, PC and XSeriesX) and comics mainly (Frank Miller's Batman is a fave). Anime taste is mainly classic/80s stuff like Akira, Lone Wolf and Cub, but I do go to Japan quite regularly.

I also try to incorporate a lot of pop culture into my clinical service. I believe you haven't lived until you have manage to mash up Dialectical Behavioural Therapy group work and The Walking Dead, or try to teach CBT concepts using Conan the Barbarian.

If you end up on a DClinPsy and need a nerd focused third year specialist placement, PM me;)
Brilliant! :D I have a PS4 as currently getting the most out of the thing.. also bit low on space for another games console. Oooh I will have to eventually watch the older classic anime.. it's on my to-do list. As is visiting Japan.. me and a friend considering a brief visit to Japan and Korea at some stage.
Might be tough to answer but do you have a favourite part of Japan or Tokyo? I know I'd love to visit some shrines.. but also need to go to Akihabara :lol:

That is a fun idea.. though I wouldn't be able to use anime because people sort of treat it with.. well I suppose they associate it with hentai :shock: So most people tend to push it away from them. Definitely wasn't open about my enjoyment of it at school..

How do you incorporate it into the therapy exactly? That I'd be interested to know :D
That's a big IF... bit of a while away from the DClin I think.. quite enjoying just exploring what I'm interested in. My psychology interests are way too broad and I want to get more competent in a number of ways. But that honestly would be the dream :cheers: (getting onto the DClin and the placement that speaks to me as a nerd)
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I consider myself a 'nerd' (or geek, not sure how those two terms relate), as I am a huge Star Trek and sci fi fan, as well as video games and board games (complex ones, not Monopoly). I'm also getting back in Magic the Gathering after a long time away from it. I've never really got into anime or manga, though maybe I would if I tried.

I vividly recall a talk from a Clinical Psychologist when I was an undergraduate (20 years ago), where she said that if you were the kind of person who enjoys staying at home and playing computer games then you were unlikely to be suited to clinical psychology. To be fair, my enjoyment of computer games probably contributed to my poor undergraduate degree marks, which meant I had to do an MSc to get onto training, and the whole journey took ages, BUT I do think the premise of what she was saying was unhelpful and a rather sweeping statement. I wonder how much those messages are still present, and how they impact diversity (while acknowledging that the profession has far more important diversity issues than the fact that there aren't enough Trekkies in the field).
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ell wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:03 pm I consider myself a 'nerd' (or geek, not sure how those two terms relate), as I am a huge Star Trek and sci fi fan, as well as video games and board games (complex ones, not Monopoly). I'm also getting back in Magic the Gathering after a long time away from it. I've never really got into anime or manga, though maybe I would if I tried.

I vividly recall a talk from a Clinical Psychologist when I was an undergraduate (20 years ago), where she said that if you were the kind of person who enjoys staying at home and playing computer games then you were unlikely to be suited to clinical psychology. To be fair, my enjoyment of computer games probably contributed to my poor undergraduate degree marks, which meant I had to do an MSc to get onto training, and the whole journey took ages, BUT I do think the premise of what she was saying was unhelpful and a rather sweeping statement. I wonder how much those messages are still present, and how they impact diversity (while acknowledging that the profession has far more important diversity issues than the fact that there aren't enough Trekkies in the field).
I'm also not sure of the difference between nerd and geek.. maybe a nerd is more studious? But board games are fun but can't get my family to play any with me. Also been interested in getting into D&D actually but again maybe a bit niche. I often wonder if my gaming affected my A Levels... did find myself being sucked into Persona 5 weeks before my exams :oops: What sorts of games (video and board) do you enjoy? I'll have to take a look in case I'm missing out!

Cannot believe that actually was a thing... certainly hope that message still isn't being circulated today. Worrying really because I wonder what other kinds of messages were directly said or implied that might of put off students. Played into that doubt that they weren't right for Clinical Psychology. I've seen it said before that everyone's path to clin is different so I hope that includes valuing an array of life experience.

These posts are reassuring me that I will not be the only 'nerd' around if I aim to work in mental health.. :lol: Might be an unfounded fear that I'll stick out in this field but as you've wonderfully added.. there might be some people avoiding this line of work because they feel they might not fit in with a particular crowd as it were. For me, I've been dealing with feeling weird and out of place for years... psychology and then in turn mental health became a goal for me to work in... but I certainly worry I am not extroverted enough or I'm too odd to be fit for psychology. I do hope things are changing in many ways, the field certainly benefits from all kinds of people as we do live in a world where everyone is unique...
:-o I might have to reflect on myself and my worries in relation to the field at some stage...
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I'd class myself as a nerd of a slight different ilk!
Less manga/anime (though I do really love the Ghibli films), more D&D & fantasy novels.

I definitely wouldn't say those interests are incredibly rare in the psychologists/therapists I've worked with either, you're in good company.
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Hi!

I'm a huge fan of gaming, anime and manga. There were quite a few of us in my cohort during training too.

Had quite a lovely discussion with a client not too long ago actually, about video games, feelings and mental health. Gaming has always struck me as an under appreciated art form and I've always found it interesting to notice the stereotypes that can go along with it (introverted, awkward etc). Come to think of it, one of my A level psychology topics way back when was about video game violence and I've seen this mentioned a few times in the media since. But really, I think there is so much beauty to be found in gaming if you know where to look for it. Just finished playing through Ori and the Blind Forest, which is a platformer with stunning artwork that draws on emotive themes like grief.

So I think that there's a lot that we can learn about being human from these mediums (they were created by humans after all!) and, of course, that goes hand in hand with psychology.
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jazzydwi wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:43 pm I'd class myself as a nerd of a slight different ilk!
Less manga/anime (though I do really love the Ghibli films), more D&D & fantasy novels.

I definitely wouldn't say those interests are incredibly rare in the psychologists/therapists I've worked with either, you're in good company.
Ah finally seen the Demon Slayer film... best distract myself from all the feels :cry:

That's brill as well :D I've always wanted to get into D&D (I have the player handbook) but alas not many people want to commit to it. But I'm glad that it and other nerdy hobbies exist in the psych professions! Sounds like they are moving away from that idea that being a nerd has negative connotations. What kind of fantasy novels :D ? Not sure whether it counts but I think the closest I've read might be the Witcher series (I got a bit distracted though with a psych book).

Definitely good company.. just need to be better at finding them it seems!
ChrisCross wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:52 pm Hi!

I'm a huge fan of gaming, anime and manga. There were quite a few of us in my cohort during training too.

Had quite a lovely discussion with a client not too long ago actually, about video games, feelings and mental health. Gaming has always struck me as an under appreciated art form and I've always found it interesting to notice the stereotypes that can go along with it (introverted, awkward etc). Come to think of it, one of my A level psychology topics way back when was about video game violence and I've seen this mentioned a few times in the media since. But really, I think there is so much beauty to be found in gaming if you know where to look for it. Just finished playing through Ori and the Blind Forest, which is a platformer with stunning artwork that draws on emotive themes like grief.

So I think that there's a lot that we can learn about being human from these mediums (they were created by humans after all!) and, of course, that goes hand in hand with psychology.
Oh that must of been fantastic :cheers: I find the moments where I get to have chats with fellow nerds warm my heart. On my hardest days at work.. connecting over Persona games or Batman with kindred spirits really gave me some strength :lol:

That's very true. Obviously it isn't the same for everyone but I really can get sucked into a good game and I find the love, creativity and clear passion brought to a game can impact my mood but also my perspective on life. I touched on it in a previous post, but Persona 5 dragged me into its world when I should of been revising for my A Levels :lol: :lol:
It can bring such joy, relieve loneliness, impact a person's beliefs.. certainly underrated. I've found anime can certainly do something similar but perhaps more dramatically. Indie games especially can be outstanding... honestly need to spend more time exploring these. I wish I had the technical ability to actually make games... I'd love to actually contribute to horror games because I feel like there's interesting psychology in what scares people. I remember playing Layers of Fear and that really plays tricks on you... :pale:
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Brioche wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:35 am
jazzydwi wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:43 pm I'd class myself as a nerd of a slight different ilk!
Less manga/anime (though I do really love the Ghibli films), more D&D & fantasy novels.

I definitely wouldn't say those interests are incredibly rare in the psychologists/therapists I've worked with either, you're in good company.
Ah finally seen the Demon Slayer film... best distract myself from all the feels :cry:

That's brill as well :D I've always wanted to get into D&D (I have the player handbook) but alas not many people want to commit to it. But I'm glad that it and other nerdy hobbies exist in the psych professions! Sounds like they are moving away from that idea that being a nerd has negative connotations. What kind of fantasy novels :D ? Not sure whether it counts but I think the closest I've read might be the Witcher series (I got a bit distracted though with a psych book).

Definitely good company.. just need to be better at finding them it seems!
If you're interested in D&D then definitely take a look at CriticalRole on Youtube/Twitch! It's a group of videogame/animation voice actors who livestream their campaign and it is brilliant (you might recognise some of the voices too). You can also find online groups to play with if your friends are non-committal - on Roll20 I think?

In terms of novels; obviously there's the big classics like Tolkien, George RR Martin and Patrick Rothfuss (who has guested on CriticalRole), but I'm an absolute sucker for the Bartimaeus Trilogy and the Old Kingdom books as a more YA fantasy.
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jazzydwi wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:50 am
Brioche wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:35 am
jazzydwi wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:43 pm I'd class myself as a nerd of a slight different ilk!
Less manga/anime (though I do really love the Ghibli films), more D&D & fantasy novels.

I definitely wouldn't say those interests are incredibly rare in the psychologists/therapists I've worked with either, you're in good company.
Ah finally seen the Demon Slayer film... best distract myself from all the feels :cry:

That's brill as well :D I've always wanted to get into D&D (I have the player handbook) but alas not many people want to commit to it. But I'm glad that it and other nerdy hobbies exist in the psych professions! Sounds like they are moving away from that idea that being a nerd has negative connotations. What kind of fantasy novels :D ? Not sure whether it counts but I think the closest I've read might be the Witcher series (I got a bit distracted though with a psych book).

Definitely good company.. just need to be better at finding them it seems!
If you're interested in D&D then definitely take a look at CriticalRole on Youtube/Twitch! It's a group of videogame/animation voice actors who livestream their campaign and it is brilliant (you might recognise some of the voices too). You can also find online groups to play with if your friends are non-committal - on Roll20 I think?

In terms of novels; obviously there's the big classics like Tolkien, George RR Martin and Patrick Rothfuss (who has guested on CriticalRole), but I'm an absolute sucker for the Bartimaeus Trilogy and the Old Kingdom books as a more YA fantasy.

I'll definitely give them a follow! It shocked me how immersive it feels.. probably down to a passionate group and DM who really invest in the world :D Will also look into online groups, certainly more difficult to come together to play these days :o

Ah always wanted to read Tolkien's works but I do worry about the immensity of what I'd be attempting... someday I'll need to set my focus on his books :lol: I don't know why I haven't looked more into fantasy stuff... I love me some demons or fae! Usually find that in manga or anime but definitely shall be exploring some fantasy novels.
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I read the whole Harry Potter Series, the Hobbit, Eragon, about five Dianne Wynne Jones books, A Wrinkle in Time and various other big fantasy books to my kids over the last couple of years. And a fellow CP recommended me the Judy Canavan books, so I munched through seven of those in lockdown last year. I've also watched the Expanse, and I'm very much a fan of Firefly and other shows with character depth like Babylon5 (though I also love a bit of teen drama like BTVS and Veronica Mars). I didn't like Game of Thrones though, and Wrinkle didn't capture us either (which was a shame as I bought a box set based on high expectations). I'm a big big fan of Ghibli and the concept of "a hero is an ordinary person who rises to a challenge". I've used that and the metaphor of the stink demon from spirited away when training quite often. I'll have to check out Ori and the Blind Forest.

Video games I'm immersed in by proxy, as I've got lots of connections to the games industry (my husband made red button games for Sky, and my brother founded a games company before going off and teaching AI to play games) and far too much exposure to gamergate - which really exposed the polarisation and culture wars that emerged to a wider audience in Brexit/Trump. But that's another story.
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