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Conversion course , please help!

Post by Shuller » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:27 pm

Hello

I was wondering if anyone has done/looked into the Manchester Metropolitan University MSc in Psychology (conversion award). I'm currently doing the University Certificate in Psychology at Uni of Derby because I wanted to pursure an MSc with them... they're so much more expensive than the other two uni's that offer online MSc conversions though (Leeds Beckett and Manchester Metropolitan).
Leeds seem to be a bit unorganised.
If you have any experience with Manchester Metropolitan please message me!
Also, anyone out there who has completed a conversion MSc and is now employed or doing their PhD?
I worry that a conversion course isn't viewed well in the working world...

Thanks v much for any info/opinions you may share

Shuller

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Post by anna88 » Thu May 07, 2015 11:31 am

Hello.

I did a conversion course at Sheffield Hallam. In terms of employement, I think having the MSc went in my favour. I was an RA at Manchester Uni and the fact that I had an UG and MSc seemed to be a positive for the recruiters. I don't think they saw the MSc conversion as being different from any other MSc. I am now a trainee so the conversion didn't affect me in terms of getting on a doctorate programme.

I was able to reflect on my academic choices and why I became interested in psychology- lots of good things to talk about in interviews!

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Post by PeteR » Sun May 17, 2015 2:45 am

Hi Shuller,

I believe the MMU Conversion course is only in its first year of presentation (2014-2015 academic year), so there aren't any graduates around yet. It would be great if a current student were out there though, so that they could let us know how they're getting on.

I am also currently doing the UCP at Derby - I had planned to stick with them for the PGDip however I see that it takes now 15 months to complete. The attraction for me with MMU is that you can do a full masters in a year.

I had discounted the Leeds Beckett one as to get the BPS accreditation you need to spend a week at a residential course and that wouldn't really be possible for me. Anyway - let me know if you apply to MMU. That's my number one choice, with the PG Dip at Derby as my back up.

Good luck! :D

EDIT to add... I see no reason why the conversion course would be looked down on but I'd be happy to stand corrected. Certainly in my (non-psychology) past work experience, interviewers are often impressed that I've managed to balance post-graduate study with working and family life. I think people are realising now how the concept of 'a job for life' is disappearing, and recognising that people are having to career-change or pursue different interests. I definitely think it's something that can be 'sold' well at future interviews and so on. But as I say, happy for those who have already done it to let us know their thoughts and experiences - I'd be very interested to hear them.

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Post by Shuller » Sun May 17, 2015 11:19 am

anna88 wrote:Hello.

I did a conversion course at Sheffield Hallam. In terms of employement, I think having the MSc went in my favour. I was an RA at Manchester Uni and the fact that I had an UG and MSc seemed to be a positive for the recruiters. I don't think they saw the MSc conversion as being different from any other MSc. I am now a trainee so the conversion didn't affect me in terms of getting on a doctorate programme.

I was able to reflect on my academic choices and why I became interested in psychology- lots of good things to talk about in interviews!
Hi Anna88,

Thank you v much for posting, it's encouraging to know that conversion courses aren't frowned upon. I'm really happy to know you got on a doctorate programme with no problems, that was another one of my worries!

:)

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Post by Shuller » Sun May 17, 2015 11:37 am

PeteR wrote:Hi Shuller,

I believe the MMU Conversion course is only in its first year of presentation (2014-2015 academic year), so there aren't any graduates around yet. It would be great if a current student were out there though, so that they could let us know how they're getting on.

I am also currently doing the UCP at Derby - I had planned to stick with them for the PGDip however I see that it takes now 15 months to complete. The attraction for me with MMU is that you can do a full masters in a year.

I had discounted the Leeds Beckett one as to get the BPS accreditation you need to spend a week at a residential course and that wouldn't really be possible for me. Anyway - let me know if you apply to MMU. That's my number one choice, with the PG Dip at Derby as my back up.

Good luck! :D

EDIT to add... I see no reason why the conversion course would be looked down on but I'd be happy to stand corrected. Certainly in my (non-psychology) past work experience, interviewers are often impressed that I've managed to balance post-graduate study with working and family life. I think people are realising now how the concept of 'a job for life' is disappearing, and recognising that people are having to career-change or pursue different interests. I definitely think it's something that can be 'sold' well at future interviews and so on. But as I say, happy for those who have already done it to let us know their thoughts and experiences - I'd be very interested to hear them.
Hi PeteR,

It's good to hear from a fellow UCP at Derby :)
Yes, my first choice is MMU as well. It seems to be a cheaper, faster route. I contacted Derby to ask them some more questions re their PgDip and MSc conversion courses and asked them about the pricing difference between themselves and MMU and Leeds Beckett. I was told that they are more expensive because their online tutors and dedicated to online work exclusively, as opposed to other unis where their tutors are involved in both the delivery of live and online courses. I'm not sure if that's the case across the board, but if that's the only reason their prices are higher then I'm quite happy with going for MMU.

I'm quite sure I'll sign up for the PgDip at MMU in September. PM me if you want to keep in touch!

Speak to you soon.
Shuller

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Post by PeteR » Tue May 19, 2015 1:18 pm

That's interesting about the price differential, I wonder if that's all it can be?

Yes, let's definitely keep in touch. When are you going to apply for MMU? Are you set on the PGDip? I know it's more expensive but for the sake of just an extra two months I thought I may as well try to go for the full MSc in order to get more research experience.

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Post by bryonyd4 » Tue May 19, 2015 6:18 pm

Hi I have also been looking at both of these courses however I am in full time work. I currently work as a clinical assistant and work very closesly with two clinical psychologist in a company that cares for learning disability and mental health. I cant afford to leave this job for financial reasons but also because the experience I am getting is invaluable. Has anyone been able to do this course whilst holding down a full time job. I would also want to finish this within a year as my employer wants to send me on another masters course (analysis and intervention with intellectual disabilities). I was wondering what other people's experiences and opinions ae on this?

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Post by hanb3 » Thu May 28, 2015 12:17 pm

Hello Shuller,
I completed a conversion MSc and have not found myself to be at a disadvantage when applying for jobs. I can't comment on the MMU course, but can say on a more general level that whatever you put in to the conversion courses you get back out. Some of my course mates used it as a tick-box exercise and they may have found their transition into the field of psychology a very different experience to my course mates who really invested in the learning opportunities available.

I have found that having a first degree in a different area has been well regarded at work. I am used to transferring knowledge from one area to another, which helps me when integrating the contributions of people with different specialisms. These sort of skills are definitely in demand... especially when you work in a multidisciplinary team.

Quick thread hijack for bryonyd4:
I worked full time and completed the MSc part time. I know some people who have worked full time and completed the MSc full time (ie in 1 year) but it was an experience I don't think they'd choose to repeat. EVER. And they had super understanding employers. With the Masters your employer wants to send you on in a year's time, you don't seem to have much of a 'time buffer' for anything on the conversion to take longer than planned... or in fact between the conversion ending and the new course beginning (the dates may well overlap by the time your grades have been taken to an exam board to ratify and award you the MSc). Only you will know how understanding your employer is, and how much time you need.

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Post by bethpaterson » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:01 pm

Hi all,

Just a quick comment re: conversion courses. They are certainly not frowned on, in fact loads of people come to psychology having done another degree beforehand. I did a conversion course (my first degree was in law) and I've had doctorate interviews and met loads of others at the interviews who have also done a conversion course.

Try and get a good grade in it though, as many courses specify a high 2:1 in your conversion.

Good luck,

Beth

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Post by PeteR » Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:55 am

Hi Beth,

With conversions being Masters, they are classed in a slightly different way, aren't they?

I think I read something that you need 50% to gain your BPS accreditation, 60% for a merit and 70% for a distinction. So in this case, would a merit be equivalent to a 2:1 and thus you realistically need 65% to progress further?

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Post by bethpaterson » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:33 am

PeteR wrote:Hi Beth,

With conversions being Masters, they are classed in a slightly different way, aren't they?

I think I read something that you need 50% to gain your BPS accreditation, 60% for a merit and 70% for a distinction. So in this case, would a merit be equivalent to a 2:1 and thus you realistically need 65% to progress further?
Hi Pete

My conversion wasn't a Master's, but a Graduate Diploma (conversion course for graduates). Yes, I got a 66% average which is equivalent to a high 2:1 at undergrad (65%+).

Even with a conversion course, some courses still specify that they want a particular grade in your first undergrad degree (including UEL which is why I am no longer eligible to apply there :( )

Beth

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Re: Conversion course , please help!

Post by PeteR » Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:59 pm

Hi Shuller,

I have been accepted onto the MMU MSc so maybe I will be 'seeing' you in September? :D

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Re: Conversion course , please help!

Post by Aphrodite » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:56 pm

Hello guys!

I am going to start the Msc Psychological Studies in Glasgow from Sept.!Does anyone has an idea how it is?Any useful feedback is welcomed. :lol:

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Re: Conversion course , please help!

Post by BogButter » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:52 am

Hi. I am thinking of doing this conversion course. Just wondering if anyone doing this course could tell me how they are getting on?

Thanks

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Post by alexthepink » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:58 pm

Hi all
I've just signed up for the Derby UCP starting in September and I'm planning to do a conversion masters next year. How are you all finding the UCP? Was it good preparation for a masters?
I'm looking at Sussex and Surrey for the conversion MSc. Does anyone have any thoughts on these?
I'm also looking at online options just in case my husband's job takes us overseas.
My BSc is in maths, so I'm hoping the statistics will come in useful.
Alex

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